Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
February 05, 2012, 08:51:23 PM
 
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Reader
  • Arcade
  • Search
  • Downloads
  • Login
  • Register
  • I Eat Soul - Home of I Eat Manga & I Eat Anime »
  • Entertainment & Discussion »
  • Manga »
  • Bleach »
  • A higher level than Bankai?

Ad

RC Helicopter and other RC toys at Xenonproject.com

  • Print
Pages: [1] 2 3 4   Go Down

Author Topic: A higher level than Bankai?  (Read 3632 times)

Offline LadyVessalius

  • Varia - Belphegor
  • *
  • Posts: 167
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 0
  • Call me Soubi.
A higher level than Bankai?
« on: January 26, 2010, 11:04:31 PM »
Hey there all!

So recently i've been thinking about something i'm sure some of you have thought about before. The bankai is said to be mastered by captain class shinigami [with some exceptions] and even the captains aren't all powerful, as Aizen has displayed, and he is obviously on a whole other level than the captains much like Yamamoto and Ichigo is well on his way.. still, i was thinking that in the people of higher class than a captain, is a third [or fourth, depending on how you view the original state] state of release, a level up from bankai.

Where the zanpakuto and the shinigami have bonded so utterly [much like Yamamoto and Ryujin jaka (spelling..? Eugh) have] that they trust each other with the others full power, making their power go to new heights. Humans evolve, zanpakuto evolve so why can't they evolve together.

The hollow transformation is an example of this,
(click to show/hide)
like when during the fight with Ulquiorra, Ichigo' hollow form goes up a level, if hollows can do it.. why can't zanpakuto's?
.   :dizzy Wow all this thought aches my brain, still, let me know what you think of this random babble?
Logged


"He who fights with monsters should be careful, lest he thereby become a monster himself and if thou gaze into an abyss.. the abyss will also gaze into thee."

Offline abc1233

  • Varia - Xanxus
  • *
  • Posts: 277
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 8
  • -Receive: 1
    • Email
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 11:27:47 PM »
well bankai means final release so no, there is no 'next' level after final in a shinigami sense. However bankai has already been surpassed as displayed by tousen and ichigo, by using their hollow powers. There doesn't seem to be a final hollow release like a shinigami, so i guess the only way to level up is through experience and through powering up the hollow form.
Logged





F**K YEAH!

Offline klenox

  • Global Moderator
  • Vongola Guardian - Lambo
  • *
  • Posts: 2906
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 26
  • Shut'cha mouth mortal
    • Email
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 11:31:43 PM »
The same as ABC says but I think hollow forms will only power up when The "owner" / "Ichigo human form" Experience some kind of "Weird sorrow/pain/feelings that is not possible" and "have been taken over by hollow" to explain like Ichigo after Ulquirro and when he defeated him he utterly insisted that he never ment in to be like this and saw everyone around him suffering because of him, maybe the mask gets stronger the more "sadness" they feel
Logged



I've quitted being a GMOD, many reasons to it, hope to see you l8 on

Offline LadyVessalius

  • Varia - Belphegor
  • *
  • Posts: 167
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 0
  • Call me Soubi.
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 11:46:07 PM »
The hollow is more powerful yes.. though I don't think only sorrow or pain bring it out, besides when Ichigo defeated Hichigo [hollow Ichigo.. whatever you wanna call him], Hichigo seemed to act as if he'd.. come back almost? like that was only one defeat a "I have lost the battle but i will win the war" type thing. -shrug-
I'm sure sorrow/pain help bringing it out but i don't think its the deciding factor.

Quote from: abc1233 on January 26, 2010, 11:27:47 PM
well bankai means final release so no, there is no 'next' level after final in a shinigami sense. However bankai has already been surpassed as displayed by tousen and ichigo, by using their hollow powers. There doesn't seem to be a final hollow release like a shinigami, so i guess the only way to level up is through experience and through powering up the hollow form.


O_o Does Bankai actually mean final release? I didn't know that if it did! =P Well you learn something new every day. Still, i know Ichigo needs to get some more power to defeat Aizen, he has the will but not the strength. Hmm.. thats a thought.. maybe its not the Zanpakuto but the owner who needs strength.
Logged


"He who fights with monsters should be careful, lest he thereby become a monster himself and if thou gaze into an abyss.. the abyss will also gaze into thee."

Offline IDevourManga

  • Arcobaleno - Skull
  • *
  • Posts: 584
  • Attack: 158
    Defense: 120
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 11
  • Obnoxiously Big Sig
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 09:38:05 AM »
first off! IM BACK!!!
and it said in the manga that everyone saw Aizen's zanpakuto which is why they cant beat him. Itchigo the strongest out of the people who haven't seen Aizen's zanpakuto is chosen to fight him plus he got hollow mask and if he goes crazy into tat hollow form something similar like Tosen then i believe Itchigo will win.
and the manga also said that he had one chance to end it all, but we all know he is going to fail and end up in hollow form becuz tats how the writer/author likes doing things.
Logged

Thank you NoobzRlegendz

Thank you xChoukoxBlackcloudx

Offline LadyVessalius

  • Varia - Belphegor
  • *
  • Posts: 167
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 0
  • Call me Soubi.
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 02:10:02 PM »
=3 WELCOME BACK!
Yus, i remember that bit! Unohana mentioned it didn't she? 'sides I think Ichigo's new
(click to show/hide)
hollow form mutation
might help him out with that,
(click to show/hide)
he beat Ulquiorra with it
So.. it must be good. I still think there has to be something, maybe not a bankai but something of higher level than their current level of power! But yeah.. what do you think?
Logged


"He who fights with monsters should be careful, lest he thereby become a monster himself and if thou gaze into an abyss.. the abyss will also gaze into thee."

Offline Corie

  • New Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 5
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 0
  • "Only the dead have seen the end of the war."
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 04:41:06 PM »
I think that it's possible to "upgrade" bankai, considering that kuchiki's (6th squad captain) bankai has several forms...
Hoping to see an "upgraded" zangetsu, considering that kurosaki is kinda weak even in his hollow form...
Logged

Offline LadyVessalius

  • Varia - Belphegor
  • *
  • Posts: 167
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 0
  • Call me Soubi.
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 04:54:05 PM »
YAY! -glomp- Someone with my opnion! Yus! Yus! I agree, his bankai isn't.. amazing, it's good but it only really increases his speed, general power and.. something else which i forget. Upgrading huh? Sounds possible, Zangetsu did mention once that Getsuga Tenshou is only one of his attacks[that might have only been in the anime.. i dunno i can't remember xP], this could also contribute to the Bankai issue. I like that idea! I hadn't thought of it like that before!
Logged


"He who fights with monsters should be careful, lest he thereby become a monster himself and if thou gaze into an abyss.. the abyss will also gaze into thee."

Offline Morte

  • Vongola Guardian - Gokudera
  • *
  • Posts: 6080
  • Attack: 115
    Defense: 103
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 120
  • -Receive: 68
  • I am the sky! Or at least, that's what a test said
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 12:09:31 AM »
Since Zangetsu's base ability is to take and use ichigo's spiritual power, there's a whole world of possibilities open for new attacks: a shield, engulfing and redirecting an enemy's attack by surrounding it with spiritual power, etc.
Logged
Magnetism is one of the Six Fundamental Forces of the Universe, with the other five being Gravity, Duct Tape, Whining, Remote Control, and The Force That Pulls Dogs Toward The Groins Of Strangers.

NoahKokoro

  • Guest
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 12:23:54 AM »
Well Ichigo's new weapon is just the final technique of Zangetsu's Bankai, so it's still the Bankai but another form. Plus Ichigo can probably use the hollow powers as well.

Now then: Captain is strongest Shinigami. It is believed that becoming a Vizard allows you to surpass the limitations of a Shinigami. Aizen went straight to being a "god" which is above even the Vizard. It's not that the swords evolve, but that the Shinigami themselves evolve which increases the power and strength of their swords.
Logged

Offline XsonicX

  • New Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 0
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 12:27:41 AM »
Lol Aizen you dummy.... That SUPER long chain around Ichigo's arm probably is holding his reiatsu  :D
Logged

Offline ryzx

  • New Recruit
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 0
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 04:11:41 AM »
hurm...if u realize...Ichigo is alwizz in his bankai mode..well..that is possible that he maybe has got the bankai towards his bankai mode..just my opinion though.. :=B
Logged

Offline Morte

  • Vongola Guardian - Gokudera
  • *
  • Posts: 6080
  • Attack: 115
    Defense: 103
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 120
  • -Receive: 68
  • I am the sky! Or at least, that's what a test said
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 09:22:49 PM »
Quote from: XsonicX on August 27, 2010, 12:27:41 AM
Lol Aizen you dummy.... That SUPER long chain around Ichigo's arm probably is holding his reiatsu  :D

That's what I thought; he used to have a chain about 5 links long; now it is more like 500 links and Ichigo said that his bankai was made of his riatsu and that the more of it was left, the more riatsu he had.
Aizen. Is. Screwed.
Logged
Magnetism is one of the Six Fundamental Forces of the Universe, with the other five being Gravity, Duct Tape, Whining, Remote Control, and The Force That Pulls Dogs Toward The Groins Of Strangers.

NoahKokoro

  • Guest
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 09:28:27 PM »
But would Ichigo's weapon be an altered form of Bankai or an even higher state?
Logged

Offline Possessed

  • Arcobaleno - Viper
  • *
  • Posts: 449
  • Attack: 110
    Defense: 110
    Attack Member

  • Thank You
  • -Given: 18
  • -Receive: 1
  • ...To the end of reason.
Re: A higher level than Bankai?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 09:39:32 PM »
I really doubt we'll see a level beyond bankai, but I think it's very likely that Ichigo will have a different form/state to his bankai. Just like Byakuya, who has several forms for different situations. Main reason I believe this, is that Ichigo's bankai so far only gave him a boost in speed and a slightly stronger GT. Not good enough to be considered a bankai IMO, especially for the main character...
Logged
  • Print
Pages: [1] 2 3 4   Go Up
  • I Eat Soul - Home of I Eat Manga & I Eat Anime »
  • Entertainment & Discussion »
  • Manga »
  • Bleach »
  • A higher level than Bankai?
 


Ad


Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2 | SMF © 2006–2009, Simple Machines LLC
SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal
Enotify by CreateAForum.com
Theme by DzinerStudio and customized by hash